this has new player, in lisa man co. she's the -- monaco. she's in a game of musical chairs that happens in the beginning of a second term. the former homeland security advisor was changed. >> just in perspective, when you talk about things going on, this week with immigration and gun control, the president's budget, all of these things converging, and yet as often happens, it all gets trumped by some other event. >> you're right. i hadn't even thought of that until you just said it because we've been so focused on getting every shred of information we can. but you've been on this north lawn before and you know full well that all of a sudden, the president's domestic agenda, in a moment, can be completely overshadowed by an act of terror, as we saw with george w. bush in 2001, or over this past weekend, we were all thinking north korea could be the headline that all of a sudden overshadows gun control, immigration reform. instead, unfortunately, tragically, it's a terrorist attack in boston.